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Do Undersea Cables Impact Marine Life?

Should we remove undersea cables to benefit marine life?

  • 118.0k
    LeslieG
    Voted Maybe
    02/10/2023

    Regardless of the effects of underwater cables, the removal will further disturb the sea life that has grown on or near the existing cables over the last 150+ years, as well as the need to replace the transmission pathway that carry 95% of international internet, banking, global communication, military and scientific transmission most likely via satellite. If this effort  is going to be done it is best handled once the cable life of 20-40 years is reached and replacement is required anyways.

    There are 380 underwater telecommunications cables laid on the surface of the seabed covering 745,000 miles around the world. There are also power cables buried in the sediment for protection used for offshore wind and hydrokinetic power plants which are expected to increase due to renewable energy projects.

    Bottom dwelling sea life (anemones, sponges, corals, sea stars, urchins, worms, bivalves, crabs , invertebrates, etc have grown on or near undersea cables since the 1st ones were laid in the 1850s. Despite the many existing studies marine biologists feel more are needed to understand the effects that electromagnetic fields (EMF) have on different species behavior and movement, as well the natural selection in the habitant occurring by the physical presence of the cables.

    NOAA is authorized to regulate: 

    (1) whether and how proposed submarine cables may be installed in National Marine Sanctuaries in accordance with international agreements to which we are a party and generally accepted principles of international law

    (2) manage coastal areas

    (3) impact in endangered or threatened species

    https://www.noaa.gov/gc-international-section/submarine-cables-domestic-regulation

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/protecting-undersea-cable-system

    https://www.csis.org/analysis/invisible-and-vital-undersea-cables-and-transatlantic-security

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20230201-how-undersea-cables-may-affect-marine-life

     

  • 27.8k
    Frank_001
    02/10/2023

    My thoughts tend toward better cable technology rather than the hardship and even chaos eliminating cables will cause.

     

  • 6,889
    Bruce
    Voted Yes
    02/09/2023

    The installation and operation of submarine cables do affect marine organisms and habitats in a variety of ways.  Some of these are sediment disturbance, reef effects, thermal emissions and distortion of natural geomagnetic fields.

  • 2,797
    Robert
    Voted No
    02/12/2023

    If you took every cable and pipeline from

    the ocean floor you woul cut almost all international telecommunications system off reliance on only satellites. You would cut certain islands off of communications and green energy infrastructure from the ocean to the islands. Fossil fuels would be cut to certain countries and islands. 

    We could drop the word internet from our dictionaries. It would be the US net, the European net the African net the Asian net etc. 

     

    any d  as ta would have to go through thousands of satellites to remain an internet. 

     

  • 18.4k
    DaveS
    Voted Maybe
    02/10/2023

    Communication is on fibers optic but it requires power for the amplifiers along the way, this is the problem.

  • 3,462
    Steph
    02/10/2023

    If removing the cables are going to disturb Sea life more than we already have, then I say leave them where they are.  We cannot continue to disturb an entire exosystem, multiple times, and expect it to survive.

  • 1,094
    RadicalRon
    Voted Yes
    02/13/2023

    Yes of course, but overall is it good or bad. In short time, sunken hulls are quickly inhabited by a myriad of marine life. Cables seem relatively benign compared to the fishing lines suspense throughout the water column, underwater explosion, pollution, ocean dumping, sonic disturbances, vessel strikes, pH and climate change. 

    Let us hope cables don’t prove nefarious. I do not see technology or consumerism slowing, hence continued pressure on world resources. It would be nice to have some synergistic success. 

  • 1,563
    Richard
    Voted No
    02/11/2023

    The cost benefit anlaysis would not be in favor of removing and replacing with other technology.  No matter what choice is made, there are environmental implications. 

  • 994
    SamJenkins
    Voted Maybe
    02/12/2023

    As stated, more research needs to be done.

  • 7,796
    PLZ
    Voted No
    02/12/2023

    I see no viable reason to remove them. If anything it 'may' disrupt the ecosystem.  Let them lie.

  • 378
    Jim
    Voted No
    02/11/2023

    Change the cables so they don't impact wildlife. 

  • 2,321
    JERRE
    Voted No
    02/11/2023

    better to quit building wind turbines that kill whales

  • 215
    Saveria
    Voted Yes
    02/11/2023

    Definitely remove undersea cables as proven they emit EMF waves which effects any living being's health, and life functions.

  • 2,849
    George
    Voted Maybe
    02/11/2023

    Cables are necessary, but I am concerned on the effect of us on wildlife. 

  • 809
    DeWitt
    Voted No
    02/11/2023

    The Left's desperation and bovine feces have reached a critical level in their attempt to push so-called "Climate Change."  Meanwhile, the northeast is seeing an alarming number of whales dying since the push to build offshore wind farms, but you don't hear a peep from these hand-wringing Communists.  Just like they don't care about the number of birds (some endangered) being killed on a yearly basis by inland wind farms.  They are willing to overlook all manner of death and destruction to further they're unattainable goals.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/01/31/whale-deaths-new-jersey-offshore-wind-farm-moratorium/11153356002/

     

  • 3,808
    Kevin
    Voted Yes
    02/11/2023

    Yes, but only if the alternative is better in tangible ways.

  • 2,641
    530 East Hunt Highway
    Voted No
    02/10/2023

    There is no conclusive, independent information to suggest marine life is being negatively impacted and that there is a better way to provide the infrastructure these underwater lines provide 

  • 2,262
    wpeckham
    Voted Maybe
    02/10/2023

    #1 it may be less disruptive, in some cases, to leave them in place and work on alternatives to carry that traffic once they can be removed safely. #2 We, all life, depends upon the sea either directly or indirectly.  Where we need to correct our impact we should do so ASAP.

  • 694
    Hillcruiser74
    Voted Maybe
    02/10/2023

    I rarely find myself unsure on an issue. The environmentalist inme says yes get rid of all undersea cables. The pragmatist understands that this technology has been vital to our society. I definitely believe everything possible must be done to minimize the impact of these lines.

  • 42
    EDWARD
    Voted No
    02/10/2023

    The cables are so deep for the most part there is no study there is no reason to remove the cables that provide a valuable service to this great nation of ours!

  • 874
    Jim
    Voted No
    02/10/2023

    "Scientists wonder..." Is wondering about the possible effect on sea life enough to disrupt 95% of data transfer worldwide. Without any evidence, I say no.

  • 4,042
    Jean
    Voted Maybe
    02/10/2023

    CAUSES ASKS: "Should we remove undersea cables to benefit marine life?"  ME: Maybe, but I can't see it being done without causing tremendous disturbance to not only the sea bed but to the global systems they support.  Far more important, IMHO, are eliminating the multiple fishing practices (scraping, bombing, etc.) that seriously and immediately destroy the ocean's habitats, cleaning up the Great Pacific (GPGP) and other "garbage patches", AND implementing and enforcing the national and international laws necessary to preserve us from all of  them.  FYI:  "The GPGP covers an estimated surface area of 1.6 million square kilometers, an area twice the size of Texas or three times the size of France."  Think about it, and where it ultimately ends up: in us.  And that's just one of the major threats to the ocean..

    https://oceanliteracy.unesco.org/threats-to-the-ocean/#:~:text=The%20biggest%20is%20the%20Great,laceration%2C%20infections%20and%20internal%20injuries

     

    https://theoceancleanup.com/great-pacific-garbage-patch/